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In today’s edition, we talked to Point72 investor Dan Gwak, who says the ‘Triangle of Death’ of sell͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌  ͏‌ 
 
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January 3, 2024
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Reed Albergotti
Reed Albergotti

Hi, and welcome back to Semafor Tech.

After Silicon Valley shunned ties with the U.S. military for years, defense tech is having a moment in the industry. Recently, more startups and investors have been building and funding companies targeting the Pentagon as a customer.

(The irony, of course, is that when Silicon Valley was young, military spending was the major source of revenue for the tech sector.)

The current trend contrasts with decades of going their own ways, with the U.S. military getting stuck in a procurement loop, buying outdated technology from entrenched contractors. At the same time, the tech industry had companies like Apple taking American technological knowhow to China in exchange for cheap labor and robust supply chains.

Now, as U.S.-China tensions rise and Russia’s war in Ukraine drags on, what’s emerged lately is a kind of techno-patriotism in Silicon Valley, combined with a belief that a byzantine procurement process is keeping the best private-sector technology out of the hands of American military personnel. The AI craze has supercharged that environment.

Dan Gwak, managing partner of Point72 Private Investments, has seen both sides of this equation. In 2008, he left his job in finance to join the U.S. Marines, where he earned a Purple Heart in Afghanistan. And he’s also worked for In-Q-Tel, the CIA-funded venture firm created to tap private sector tech to aid intelligence goals.

Now, he’s investing in defense tech and helping startups navigate the government-contracting maze. I spoke with Gwak about the struggle to get the latest tech into the hands of soldiers and what Silicon Valley is doing right and wrong on that front. Read below for an edited interview.

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Samsung is usually a few years ahead of Apple in terms of new features. (Folding phones came out five years ago). Those features, though, don’t change the fundamental nature of the phone. AI could be different. Samsung has the advantage of running Android, which means it could deeply integrate some of the most advanced AI technology out there.

Samsung, which also manufactures semiconductors, could also do some interesting things with on-device AI models. Then the big question becomes: Will iPhone users be enticed to make the switch?

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Q&A

Dan Gwak is a managing partner at Point72 Private Investments, where he leads investing in defense tech.

Q: What are the hardest problems to solve in defense tech?

A: AI, especially autonomy. Outside of Shield AI, it’s pretty hard to find a truly successful company like that. A lot of commercial autonomy startups are struggling. That is truly difficult technology. I have full confidence the defense primes are not going to crack that. That’s why we are willing to fund a startup to do that. If we can get autonomy right, that’s absolutely going to be game changing in a near-peer conflict. And it’s something that, if you get right, the government will basically have no choice but to buy. Air, land, and sea autonomy are all areas that are super important.

Another area is large language models. Great power competition is much more likely to be like a Cold War, and then it’s about decisive technologies that deter adversaries’ actions. What really matters in that scenario is intelligence. What is the adversary thinking? What are they currently publishing about? What can we glean from what people in that country are saying. Even within our own country, sometimes it’s very hard to figure out fact from fiction because there’s such a prevalence of misinformation. But misinformation is going to be a huge part of future conflicts.

What LLMs can do in creating a whole bunch more, or identifying a whole bunch more, information campaigns is truly profound. It’s not just like LLMs can save you the writing of the thing. They’re starting to actually be able to log into SaaS products like Twitter, and go through the workflows themselves. It’s like a 100x, 1,000x productivity increase for human beings. These cutting edge technology waves that are the big game changers, the primes aren’t well positioned to address.

Q: When you talk about autonomy, that’s fairly broad. Do you have examples?

A: The hard part is actually the autonomy software. That’s the control system that can take in the sensor data, and make sense of it to control the vehicle. I can imagine a world where there’s a software adoption pathway, where software ends up going into the existing platforms. You’re probably not going to build a whole new nuclear submarine just for the autonomy capability. So that software adoption pathway is important. You’re starting to see that in, for example, grounded autonomy. There’s a program with robotic combat vehicles [RCVs]. Primes compete for the hardware component of it and then they’re having a separate acquisition process for the control software part of it.

Those things are separated purposefully because the defense primes have a lot more experience building that tank body or whatever. And the startups have a lot more experience building the autonomy software.

But the biggest impact of autonomy isn’t just taking the existing platforms, and then making them autonomous. What’s truly game changing is things you can do that you previously couldn’t. An example of that is the Marine Corps NMESIS program. They have an idea of creating an autonomous vehicle that can launch missiles, launch artillery, and then autonomously get out of there.

Why is that so important? My father is actually an artilleryman. When you launch artillery, it goes through the air, gets caught on radar, and they know where that’s coming from right away. They’re sending artillery back instantly. Oftentimes, that means an artilleryman can get one round and then they’ve got to pack up and get out of there as soon as they can. If we can autonomously do that, it’s 100x better.

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Q: Do you need lobbyists to sell to the government?

A: The fundamental reason that it is so hard to sell to the government is what I call the Triangle of Death. The users, the budget, and the authority all live in different places in [the Defense Department]. To make matters worse, they don’t know about each other. That’s the crazy thing. The user is the uniformed military service person who is facing off against the enemy, maybe a drone pilot or an intelligence officer who needs to understand what’s being said in the Chinese Twittersphere.

That user usually loves talking to tech companies because they can tell right away what’s going to be massively game changing and really help them in their job. But if you ask that user how they would go about purchasing something, they have no idea.

When I was a Marine, I got issued a rifle. I could not tell you who made the decision that was the rifle we were going to carry. So for startups, the users are usually fairly easy to identify and get to, but identifying where that budget and where the authority lives are the really hard part about defense tech sales into government.

To navigate the Triangle of Death and the rest of the conversation, read here. →

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SpaceX founder Elon Musk pointed out on X that this is mainly for areas where there’s no signal. It’s not going to replace traditional cell service; SpaceX is partnering with T-Mobile on the project. But given how fast this technology is moving, it probably won’t be long before we have an internet that is space-based.

Maybe it won’t be as fast or robust as our current terrestrial backbone, but it could be incredibly powerful, especially in places where internet access is controlled by authoritarian governments.

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