Chris Dixon is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where he founded and leads a16z crypto, which invests in web3 technologies and has more than $7 billion under management. His new book is Read Write Own: Building the Next Era of the Internet. Q: A lot of your colleagues wouldn’t bother explaining a technology that’s not so hot right now. A lot of people have moved on to large language models. Why do you want to go this route? A: I could go do AI. I just really believe in this. I really got into business because I fell in love with the ideals of the internet. These computers got connected in this open, decentralized way, which was a magical thing. I started an internet company in 2004. And then I got into social media, and in some cases, invested in some of these companies. I just assumed that we would keep that ethos. Twitter was this open platform people were building on, people were building on Facebook. Now we are at a point where there’s five companies that control the internet, and I think it’s going to get worse. I’m pro-AI, but I don’t see a version of this where it doesn’t further exacerbate this because it’s a centralizing technology. It will further entrench these big companies, because it rewards companies with money, compute, and data. And the world hasn’t fully appreciated that we’re really losing this great thing. There may be regulatory approaches to helping with this, and I support those. So I’m not saying that technology is the only solution. But blocking [Adobe’s deal for] Figma is not going to decentralize the internet. The cow has left the barn in some of those regulatory matters. It was the acquisition of Instagram that was the issue, not Figma. So the other important thing is can we create a new wave of internet services that embody the ideals of the early internet. That’s what my book is about. My argument is that blockchain-enabled networks can be the best of both worlds. They can have the advanced functionality and the funding that people expect from modern digital services, but also return us to the ideals of the early internet. Q: We’re on the cusp of a new wave of a lot of value creation. The internet also created a huge amount of wealth, but it went to a small percentage of people. Do you think the “own” phase of the internet, as you call it, is an antidote to that problem? A: That’s the idea. The value of Bitcoin, unlike the value of Square Cash and PayPal, has gone to the community. The same has been true of Ethereum. We’re not building steel mills. We’re building networks. When you go to TikTok, they didn’t pay for the content. Instagram didn’t pay for it. The users created it. Why wouldn’t the users get rewarded? It just makes intuitive sense that the people who do the work should make the money. It’s a really exciting design space. Maybe my favorite idea in all crypto is called collaborative storytelling. The idea is you have kind of Wikipedia-style communities of fans who get together and create narrative universes, like the new Harry Potter. And then they get rewarded with NFTs and tokens, according to how much they contributed. And then those things can become movies or TV shows, and those fans get rewarded financially. So instead of just debating should Obi-Wan have done that, they can actually decide and then GitHub-style fork it. And what’s so beautiful about this idea is it’s like the extension of Wikipedia. It’s the next level of doing it for creative things. Two, it provides a new business model for creative people at a time when it’s critical, with generative AI dropping the cost of things like illustrations to zero. And three, it solves a problem for Hollywood. Why is Hollywood creating so many sequels? They’ll say because it costs $300 million to market a movie. What if instead, you have this army of fans who created something who go and evangelize it themselves. One of the arguments is that it’s also a more democratic, egalitarian distribution of the money, which is why I wanted to write the book, because the gap between the reality and the perception is so wide. People think it’s laser-eyed people getting rich and I understand why. People are on Twitter saying dumb stuff, like ‘have fun staying poor.’ But in fact, this technology can be used in a very democratizing way. Q: Critics would say that’s a great idea, but why do you need blockchain for that? A: The alternative architecture would be to have a company behind it. The problem of corporate networks is they start off saying ‘let’s help the community.’ And then over time, they just end up changing the rules, extracting. You’re just not building on solid ground. The idea I just described involves ownership. So the users are owning a piece of the property. And a core part of my argument is that this is the breakthrough of blockchains — they enable credible ownership. The rules are baked in. It can’t be evil. Q: There are big technological hurdles right now that need to be overcome to have a distributed compute network capable of training and running AI models. Is that where you could participate in the AI boom? A: Fifteen years ago, there was the social, mobile, cloud. Social was the killer app that drove the sale of mobile phones. None of that would have worked if you didn’t have cloud backends to scale these systems up. So they are interrelated and I expect the same thing with VR, self-driving cars, AI, and crypto. What I hope is that they will intersect and reinforce. Like with AI, blockchain is a very natural antidote to things like deep fakes. Imagine a system where a video has a cryptographic signature, and Semafor attests that this is a real video that we put up. And that’s held in a community-owned database that keeps an audit trail, i.e. a blockchain. Read here for the rest of the conversation, including Dixon's thoughts on a Chris coin. → |
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