Steve Barrett/Handout via REUTERS I met Adam Frisch in the Spring of 2022 and found him to be extremely gracious and yet determined. Sort of a really nice unstoppable honey badger. He told me he was planning to run in the Democratic primary and, if successful, wanted to challenge and beat one of the House’s most flamboyant MAGA idols, Rep. Lauren Boebert, whom he thought was achieving nothing but embarrassment for her district. He was a businessman, policy wonk, long distance skier, doing the kind of ski trekking where you have to go up the mountains as much as down them. He seems to care a great deal about good public policy and has Republican and Democrat friends who also care about policy and spend time talking about real issues with him in fancy haunts around Aspen. With 99% of the vote counted in CO-3, Frisch leads Boebert by 64 votes. Under Colorado law, that’s less than a 0.5% difference given the total vote counts and thus there will be a recount. Here is part of my exchange with Frisch, edited for length and clarity, on why and how he took on an incumbent that few saw as vulnerable and beatable. The full conversation is here. STEVE CLEMONS: So unpack it for us. How did you do this? This was a race that I knew from knowing you was going to be hot, but most other people said there weren’t going to be any surprises there. A year ago, Rep. Boebert made some comments. Don’t ask me what the exact words were, but they were not helpful and they were disrespectful. And she’s said a lot worse. And I’m just thinking, “Oh my goodness. Not good.” And at that time, I’m thinking, let me pull up some numbers and see if there’s any way she or others can lose. And, you know, you have these five or six people in “The Squad” on the left, and you have eight or nine or ten on the right. And you put them all together, and I don’t want to make any moral equivalency here, but there are 15 or so of those brand name loud ones on either side, and 14 of them have 65% to 80% wins in 2020 in the general election. But Boebert was at 51%. I realized, oh my goodness, she won 51% to 46%. And if only 5% of the voters switched their vote in 2020, she would have lost. On top of that, she didn’t even win her home county. Those who know her best don’t care for her. I started to see some tea leaves that maybe the Trumpism is starting to go down. But for better or worse, the only place in the entire country where there’s any mathematical chance to see one of these extremists defeated is Colorado-3. And I knew that somehow there’s a way to make this an emotional win for the country and send a message of enough of the hate, enough of the yelling and screaming. STEVE CLEMONS: So you’re sort of describing yourself Adam, though not completely, as a kind of Joe Manchin of Colorado. Do you expect that to be welcomed by your fellow members in the Democratic caucus, or will they give you a tough time like they do him? ADAM FRISCH: People are pushing me like, “I don’t want you to be a Joe Manchin,” “Are you going to be like Joe Manchin?” but said derisively. I’m like, listen, I’m going to be my own person, but I think we need to realize Colorado-3 are ranchers and farmers. It’s 25% Dems. And we have a unique opportunity to get rid of an extremist and try to build a coalition. And so I’m not going to attach myself to AOC, Nancy Pelosi, [Arizona Senator Kyrsten] Sinema, or Manchin. I am a Western Slope Democrat, who is going to be more conservative. A couple things that resonated with the non D’s: For 20 years, I would say that if there was a “get stuff done” party, I would be in that party, but that party is not doing very well right now. And our country is suffering for that. I think our district is especially suffering for that because of who our representative is. Two, people want the circus to stop. That was probably the best five or six words that I used all the time. And again, it resonated with everybody on the right and the left and the center. And then I have this buddy I went to middle school and high school with Dean Phillips, D-Minn. who is in the Congress, and he’s in the Problem Solvers Caucus. Dean used this term “Angertainment” about a year ago on some little newscast. And I’m like, Oh, my goodness, that is exactly the best definition of where the sad part of our political parties are on either side — getting people angry, turning it into entertainment, generating money, generating media off of it. And our district is represented by the Queen of Angertainment, along with Marjorie Taylor Greene. When I talked about wanting this “angertainment industry” to stop, that resonated with a lot of people. |