 If CBS Newsâ poaching of Ross Douthat from The New York Times is any indication, the paper may need to start locking its journalists into TV-style talent deals. In another era, the departure of a longtime columnist would be a minor headache, not an organizational challenge. But over the last year, Douthat had morphed into a surprise podcast star for the paper, which increasingly relied on him to score hard-to-land interviews with leading figures on the right. Douthatâs show, Interesting Times, racked up millions of video views on YouTube, where it has a larger following than many other Times podcast offerings. (Douthat is expected to be a part of CBS Newsâ expanded podcast division, though a network source told Semafor nothing is finalized.) Douthatâs show will be the second major podcast shaken up by departures this summer. In June, Kevin Roose announced he was leaving the Times in August to launch his own media company with Hard Fork co-host Casey Newton. Both shows are now hunting for new hosts, with Hard Fork holding screen tests for new candidates, including Times tech journalists Mike Isaac and Kashmir Hill. The Times has accepted a future where many of its journalists spend more time on camera, and recently reorganized its podcast and audio departments into a more 2026-friendly âshowsâ structure. Itâs also sunk considerable resources into video production, with plans for monetization, including potential licensing deals with TV networks or streamers. The paper wants to become âa preferred brand for watching news,â CEO Meredith Kopit Levien told investors in May. But the show format, which requires continuity, leaves the paper more exposed to the whims of its best journalists. And the showsâ success means journalists will have even more opportunities to become stars in their own right, something the Times has historically chafed at. Itâs all part of the great flattening of media. As the Times behaves more like a television network, itâll face the same talent challenges as traditional TV. (And the same opportunities, too; the resumes started rolling in the second Douthat and the Hard Fork hosts announced they were leaving, weâre told.) TV networks seem to be going in the opposite direction. CBS Newsâ major hires this summer werenât veterans of rival TV networks; they were digital and print media names. Also today: a deep dive into the scourge of YouTube slop. |